kelly, founded. commander kelly at one point answered mr. lapierre's claim that background checks don't need to be made universal. >> my wife would not be sitting in this seat, she would not have been sitting here today if we had stronger background checks. >> the nra position, and shared by many people, is that criminals would still be able to get and use firearms and banning high-capacity rifles still would not work. and banning the semiautomatic weapons, such as the ones used in aurora and elsewhere. the assault weapons ban that was in effect in 1994, they used it to make their case, listen. >> they prove that it had no impact on lowering crime. >> the department of justice report assault weapons as a percentage of gun traces, we chose the 70% decline. >> while armed security works, gun bans do not. >> i have been in law enforcement for nearly 35 years and i have seen an explosion of fire power since the assault weapons ban expired. victims are being riddled with multiple gunshots. >> reenact the